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Zawey'ra um e'Mena?

Sun Oct 18, 2009, 9:17 PM


"What's in a Name?"

I've decided to make this journal entry just in case some people are still wondering about my name, though I'm still stumped as to why it matters so much to people.

"Nura Kinekaomi" is derived from a language that I made up a few years ago. It has slowly evolved since the 6th grade but still has its old roots, probably because I'm sentimental about these things. Here's a quick run down:

--"Nura" is the formal address for a woman, like "Mrs." or "Ms." For a man, it would be "Nor" while "Noria" is used universally for children and as a sign of familial affection.

In formal introductions, being introduced by someone else would most likely include the formal address, such as "Hello all, this is Mrs. Kinekaomi" (roughly) or "Wassi, yewa mena ur Nura Kinekaomi" A person introducing themselves in the presence of perfect strangers or "higher-ups" would most likely add an "e" to the beginning of their name as a way of conveying "I" or "Me" as in "Hello all, my name is Meagan," or "Wassi, neva mena ur e'Kinekaomi." In groups, this also breaks down confusion for the outside listener because the "e" would then associate a name presented in the past with the speaker. This also applies because you would be presenting others with the name you would like to be called. Let's continue...


Because many "normal" names translate funnily to my language, there are many creative ways to edit a name to make it sound more pleasing (euphonious) to the ear:

--"Kinekaomi" is one of many rough derivations of my real name and is based on a very simple formula I have for name creation. Because simple letter-switching doesn't always work, many time I employ a method for adding more euphonious syllables and changing the order of many of the existing syllables. My exact technique is hard to describe since I do it based on euphony and syntax, but there are different rules for male and female names because of the possible name crossovers such as Sam or Jamie. For instance, Meagan is obviously a girl's name but I've really taken license for the creation of Kinekaomi. If I were a man, my name would have a different tense and my username would have been "Nor e'Naekhem" even though "Naekhem" is actually closer to the non-syntactical translation of my name (does that make sense?). :confused: As a better example that I've used once already tonight for a poll held by ~synax444, Chris would become "Kou'atoor" (koe-at-OOR) for a man and "Keatori" (kay-A-door-EE) for a girl. Obviously there are many other spellings and translations, but these were the most immediately pleasing forms.

I actually prefer to use a different, shorter version of my name in real life (haha), which would be "Maife" so:

"Wassi, neva mena ur e'Maife!" :nod:

Some random phrases that make me smile--
--R'voy oc vio isel qa'apat! (shut up ya old geezer!)
--U'femiz maivumka! (i know nothing!)
--Vio't his'she ihoy (you're full of it) makes me yawn :giggle:
--say na qi!! (lemme go!!)

Here are some random examples of names I've translated over the years: (F for female, M for male)

F --Emily-- "Anusev" -- (AWW-noos-EV)

M --Matthew-- "Neyd'yewas" -- (nay-deyee-WOZZ) *d'ye is an odd syllable to phoneticise...

F --Kenna-- "Fammei" -- (FAA-may)

M --Alex-- "Eisaga" -- (A-su-gaa) *hard A

F --Michelle-- "Nokewas'sha" -- (NO-kay-wos-SHA) *s'sha is also hard to phoneticise...

M --Jeremy-- "Xatanov" -- (ZHAA-taa-nove) * 'nov like love (lol, kinda French sounding!)

F --Tatiana-- "Yaiuemi" -- (YAY-yoo-a-MEE) *soft a's sound nicer, but the hard A can also work here...

M --Casey-- "Kedorave" -- (KAY-door-AAH-vey)

F --Elizabeth-- "Aishedaia" -- (AEE-sha-DAY-ah)

M --Geezer-- "Qa'apat" -- (kaç-paat) *don't ask... :giggle:

F --Amy-- "Aenave" -- (ay-NAH-vey) *could also be "Envy" :confused:

M -- Joel-- "Xias" -- (ZIE-us)

F --Molly-- "Nis'shev" -- (NEE-s'shev) *soft hiss on s'sh, maybe?

M --Miguel-- "Nuceas" -- (new-KAY-as) *Same-ish for Michael. New CHAOS!! :fear:

F --Rosalie-- "Tiresua" -- (tee-ray-SOO-aah)

M --George-- "Kai'etique" -- (kigh-ETT-ee-kah)



Would anyone like a quick translation of their own name? I'll even throw in a crude pronunciation if you'd like...


Clubs I'm in:
:iconfractaldreams: :iconpsychedelictreasures: :iconapophysis: :iconfantasy-fellowship: :iconimanipulate:

  • Mood: Content
  • Listening to: ei heyem (a fan)
  • Reading: neva zeiotomes (my journal)
  • Watching: maivumka (nothing)
  • Playing: maivumka (nothing)
  • Eating: laisukyor i'il!! (delicious food!)
  • Drinking: zeyat (water)
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~milora Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Wassi Nura Maife!! :aww: Neva mena ur e'...uh...Camille, Auressie, or Milora..(all feminine)

I LOVE CONLANGS! x333333
I am actually in the creation process of my own language..called Loricaene...
do you wanna talk about the sentence structure, word order, aesthetics, grammar, etc. of your language? We can compare certain things in our respective languages!
:iconyayzplz:
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*MeaganEmerson Feb 3, 2010  Student General Artist
Camille "Kenus'shae" (KEN-uss-SHY)
Auressie "Etaru" (ey-TAR-oo)
Milora "Noesitea" (NO-si-TAY-ah)

Wassi Nura Kenus'shae... it'e Etaru... it'e Noesitea!! :wave:

I always love coming across others that have their own languages! It makes me feel a little less abnormal. (just a little...) Unfortunately, mine has been given little practicality or merit. It's been evolving very slowly over the years and flows mainly with an English base as far as word order and structure.

Most words in my language results out of code-like letter switching followed by unique substitutions based on how I want the words to be spoken (or written mainly). I am currently trying to learn more about phonetics, and most of the substitution work is based on my interpretation of euphony using simple a-z characters.

Because I base everything on letter switching(sadly), these subtle phonetic substitutions help me distinguish similarly spelled words. For instance, from English to Heitave, the words ' god ' and ' good ' become ' qil ' and ' qi'il ' respectively. I tend to use an apostrophe to denote a soft 'h' or a shortened syllable in the middle of a word. And a 'q' in my language does not necessarily require an accompanying 'u' because it can also signify a somewhat softened 'k' sound produced from the back/softer part of the mouth.

I recently came across that link to the language kit in one of your previous journals and it has peeked my interest in finding a suitable script once again! I had originally intended to use this one [link] from the very beginning, but as the language evolved, the less useful it became so now it's more of an English font. Still fun to play with... :giggle:
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~milora Feb 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you, those are cool names. ^_^

Haha yeah...I get weird looks when people find out that I have a language. xDD

Oh, I see. (: Well is still is a nice-looking language. :D And of course you can always change the sentence structure...my language was originally SVO but is now SOV. I like it better this way, anyway. :D

Yay, I am so glad that someone got use of my link to the Language Construction Kit! ^_^ I looove that thing. 8D

Would you like me to nerd out about my language? It's okay if you say no, it's just that I have never met someone else interested in invented/constructed langauge. xDDD
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*MeaganEmerson Feb 5, 2010  Student General Artist
Heh, feel free to let your nerd flag fly high. I might learn something! :giggle:
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~milora Feb 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, thank you. x3 That is indeed the awesomest flag out there!

Okay...umm...Loricaean (Lorícaëne in the language itself) is the language spoken widely throughout the central landmass in a world called Lóricaë. I will spare you the history lesson, because 'tis linguistics we are talking about here. It is SOV, and whatever details and prepositions you have are placed directly with the part of speech they pertain to. So Angrily the dog chased the frightened cat off the roof. is said: The dog the frightened cat angrily chased off the roof. Um, the phonology is explained here, which while it has not been completed, contains correct pronunciation.

The alphabet is:
a c d e f i j l m n o r s t v y z é ö ę
and all of the vowels can have these accents on them: ´ and ¨.
These accent marks have different uses.
The ´ mark is used to denote the syllable's stress, but only if there are three syllables or more. The unique letter é is almost never found in 3+ syllable words. The ¨ mark is used when there are two vowels in a row to denote that they are not a diphthong. The unique letter ö is always the stressed syllable in any word containing it. Ę is unique, the symbol only being used to show that a "z" should be pronounced as a French "j".
Compound words contain apostrophes which show that there is a complete breath stop. Lorícaëne punctuation does not measure in sentences, but in pauses and complete ideas. ..I mean..
Hello, I am here to help you. If you need anything, just ask.
is said as:
,hello ,i am here to help you。,if you need anything ,just ask。
and
Today I saw a movie and I bought groceries.
is said as:
,today i saw a movie。and i bought groceries。

So even if you complete an idea and move on to a different subject, you need not pause. like the. period in other languages. denotes.
And if you have a single paragraph on the same subject, with many pauses, you needn't use a 。because you are still on the same subject.

A text of Lorícaëne in its alphabet can be found here, which I wrote in a little green book I bought. It is Tolkien's..well...just read the Artist's Comments. ^^;
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*MeaganEmerson Feb 8, 2010  Student General Artist
Very interesting! You've certainly given me some new ideas for Heitave. :love:

The text looks pretty cool, too! Just out of curiosity, are you left handed? I have a calligraphy pen at home and your writing somewhat reminds me of my own.

Thanks for sharing! :dance:
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~milora Feb 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Hehe, thanks. ^^; I would love to hear and learn more about Heitave when you progress it further, or any of your ideas/things you think would be a cool feature for a language to have. 8D

Why yes I am left-handed. :) And I looove fountain pens so much because they make my normally-messy and slightly unsteady handwriting so fluid and much neater. And I am so glad to be a lefty right now, because it is SO much easier to write with a fountain pen if you are left-handed than if you are right-! :dance:
Are YOU left-handed? ;P
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*MeaganEmerson Feb 9, 2010  Student General Artist
I am left-handed as well. And on that note, I'm thinking that it would be interesting to develop a working script that can be read left-to-right then right-to-left as you move to another line. It would certainly make things interesting!

Right now I'm doing cyphers. Have you ever noticed the random succession of different-sized lines that are stamped across some envelopes? (iliil||li|) I've created a working code based on these little lines and am thinking that it would be a great base for possible adaptation as a script, a bit to the effect of Arabic or Gujarati.

I'm also thinking about posting some of my cyphers...
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~6Sanuye9 Dec 30, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, how 'bout Calliope? or Callie?

I once made up a "language" in fourth grade, but its more of a code I'd say, and not quite as complex as yours seems to be. Its Oclliantic, and it has its own runes and all (which I can write "fluently" in), but unfortunately I've never made much of an effort to learn to speak it.

I just love made up languages!
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*MeaganEmerson Dec 31, 2009  Student General Artist
Oh, I also just posted my code/font if you're interested. [link]

Happy New Year! :party:
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